Getting Normal
experiences of patients in maintenance therapy with methadone in their earlier experiences with heroin addicts. Although methadone has allowed thousands of lives people lead happy, productive and law-abiding, many of the beneficiaries suffer the stigma of social trust in something that a medication remaining completely abstinent. This film goes beyond labels and slogans demonstrating the differences between daily methadone and ways of life of heroin. … Heroin addiction to methadone …
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By the way, I’d also mention that “clean” is highly subjective term that differs widely from culture to culture and person to person. However it usually involves a particular belief system involving abstiance-only solutions to addiction which the girl in the film generally does not support. Thanks for the comment.
-David
Hi Nathan. I think you might be confusing dependent with addicted: sure she’s dependent on methadone and without it she’d be sick, however she hasn’t been sick in 5 years because she’s on a legal, stable perscription medication. The diagnostic definition for addiction involves continued use of a substance despite continued negative consequences, whereas lots of people are dependent on opiates without being addicted to them, ie. Cancer patients, people with back pain, ect.
Thanks,
David
The girl talks about being sick when she was on dope and trying to find it everyday. but what would happen if she was cut off of the methadone? It’s like a double edge sword. U can tell these people are doing better but they are still addicted. What if her methodone wasn’t there the 1st thing in the morning. I just feel these good people are kidding theirselves. I am 2 years clean next month.
Thanks for the comments. I agree with what Billyklez said, but I would also support the heroin-based maintenance programs (or the legalization of dope). I think you’ve got a point that many of our drug laws have a real problem with obtaining pleasure from a substance deemed a “drug” hence mainstream drug policy won’t let you get that rush.
-David
hey, thanks for the great comments. one thing, though, there’s a big difference between addiction and dependence. most people who take methadone the way it’s supposed to be taken (same dose consumed same time each day) enjoy very stable lives, good relationships, etc. even though they are chemically dependent. addiction occurs when your life is no longer manageable. so it’s not what you do to the drug, it’s what the drug does to you. does taking it make your life more or less manageable?
I never understand why they dont just prescribe
heroin/opiates (synthetic dilaudid like stuff obv.).
Whats the point..Methadon is addictive as well..and the
worst part about addiction is gettin ur stuff/ organizing
and qualityissues anyway – all that stress and agony of waiting would be resolved ( 2 some extend with Methadon as well?!)
They seem 2 not grant the rush 2 those oh so irresponsible, lazy “Junkies”, me thinks sometimes.
Thanks for your comments Angelo, and I did watch your video – good job. While I don’t see everything entirely the same way in terms of doses and candidates for MMT, and think even those who may not be “abstinant” are still reducing the harm they’d encounter without MMT – I certainly agree that the clinic system is a huge problem. I’d like to see Methadone’s distribution system changed so people don’t have as many issues leading them to have to taper.
-David
Methadone can be a valuable tool in recovery or a holding pattern or a dead end. You sound like you are doing methadone right. Check out my new video here on you tube “getting off methadone” all the best
Thanks and congratulations on a year – I’ve been on MMT a little over four, and it still amazes me how different my life used to be.
-David
Thanks for the kind, encouraging words. And congratulations on your upcoming 1 year anniversary. That’s really fantastic … stay in touch and stay tuned … more films to come ………. -Greg Scott
Your videos are great! they remind me of how my life was almost a year ago. 8 more days will make me 1 year sober from my IV opiate use. Methadone has saved my life. Very Inspiring. Keep up the good work.
I agree with you 100%.
You’re right, “it is different for everyone.” I wish everyone would recognize this, understand this. IT’s much like dieting or learning something new, or having sex … everyone does it the same way, but everyone’s trying the same thing. If you need methadone out of your life, so be it. It’s your need, you own it. So who’s to say it’s the wrong need, or a wrong-headed want? Finding and knowing peace … that’s a question very different from the one of dependence. It’s a rare achievement.
Some valid points as I recall the desperation
I felt however it is different for everyone
for myself and many others it is still not
enough, despite total freedom from ILLICIT
addiction to the preferable dependence as
well as Chrohns disease with knackered
arthritic joints I WILL Emancipate myself
after 12 years of addiction! 30ml to zero
I live on the east coast of england in Hull
so a short ferry ride to Holland +4 days of treatment I”ll be home for the weekend
free & KNOW PEACE
I have heard some interesting things about Ibogane (and Howard Lostof seems like a decent guy) but I don’t think of Methadone as part of any process towards some further goal, yet to be achieved. Being on MMT allows me to live a happy, productive life without the hardships of addiction – that’s what I wanted from Methadone, and it more than delivered.
-David
the next step when your ready, IBOGAINE
QUID PRO QUO
Thanks for your comment. Very well said. I wish more people were as enlightened and articulate on the issue of methadone. I want to encourage you to bravely share your views with others in your community, your social group, your corner of the world. –Greg Scott
Thanks so much for posting this. I “get” it..
Methadone is a life-saver and it’s a shame so many people misunderstand it. Every community should have easy access to Methadone.
Thanks, Cracked Quarters and the Brickyard were actually filmed by friend and prof Greg Scott, who’s listed here as Billyklez. I coulden’t figure out how to upload my film so he posted it with his stuff.
Oh…..The reason she’s so beautiful(*to me at least)is how Honest and open she’s being “We had pancakes and Bacon this Morning they were delicious” she so open and at ease it’s like she’s talking to her best friend. I love ur films cracked quaters Amazing the brick yard broke my heart Keep em comming I’m very happy she’s healthy and clean it would be a Horrible waste of such an intelligent women
Thanks for the comment, and Jo will be glad to hear to she looks good on film (we’re married). She’s definately doing great – been on maintenance for close to four years – and we’re both havin a blast here in Chicago.
-David
what a beautiful Intelligent woman I love ur Channel so raw and real but this girl could be anyone I hope she’s clean and healthy thanyou for ur videos my only problem with them id there not enougf keep em comming
Unfortunately, regulations exist at the Federal, State, and individual clinic level, so treatment is all across the board, often with clinics (or states) enacting rules that fly in the face of medical guidelines as well as common sense. Finding a good clinic makes a huge difference in one’s life though – I only go to my clinic once a month too, and my clinic is generally cool. Some of these rules prevent people from re-entering the mainstream world.
-David
omg that makes so much sense what you said. Now who are the ones that makes the rules for clinics is it the owners of it or the different states? I might even have to pawn my video camera for gas to get to the clinic so…Im hustling for gas now not dope!!
She’s enrolled in a clinic in Chicago … it’s one of the better ones, according to most accounts I’ve heard. Your clinic has an unusually strict, almost debilitating policy. A 2-year probationary period seems like it’s almost designed to weed people out by setting up a good many to fail. Hang in there … let me know if ever I can do anything to help with your situation.
